Raynee King
Hey there.

Greta Jane
Hi.

Raynee King
I'm Randy Kean.

Greta Jane
And I'm Greta Jain. Do you know your true crime?

Raynee King
Can you call us out on our lies?

Greta Jane
Our podcast is true crime with a twist. Sometimes it's not true.

Raynee King
So grab your wine and call us out on two lies in a crime.

So I'm Rainy King.

Greta Jane
And I'm Greta Jain.

Raynee King
And we've known each other for

Greta Jane
20 something years something here. Yeah, I met you through my ex husband and yeah, I got you and the divorce.

Raynee King
You won me?

Greta Jane
Yes. It was amazing. It was the best. It was the best. X divorce gift I've ever gotten. And we've had many adventures.

Raynee King
So far. Two bottles of wine right now.

Greta Jane
Yes. And we do like to drink

Raynee King
just recording this.

Greta Jane
Getting into a lot of shenanigans.

Raynee King
But that's okay. Let's make some great friendships.

Greta Jane
Yeah, absolutely

Raynee King
Wine. And true crime.

Greta Jane
And who would have known I had no idea. I remember the day when I said, Hey, have you heard of this website? And you were like, yeah. It's like, wait, what?

Raynee King
I think that was only like, a couple years.

Greta Jane
It really was.

Raynee King
So I don't know if I if this will offend you. And I was excuse you.

Greta Jane
I'm a Patreon. What do you

Raynee King
what just happened?

Unknown Speaker
So then you decided that it would be a wise decision to start a podcast

Raynee King
Podcast? i This is my decision.

Greta Jane
Well, I mean,

Raynee King
it was our decision. I thought we were

Greta Jane
in our drunken stupers, we always agreed on a route.

Raynee King
I think it took us six months to figure out what to do.

Greta Jane
And it wasn't even my idea.

Raynee King
We use new wine was gonna be involved.

Greta Jane
Absolutely.

Raynee King
So but ya know, it all started because I was telling my stepdaughter, true crime story. And I got so many facts wrong. And I was like, this is ingenius. This is what... I was a little drunk. A little

Greta Jane
A little,

Raynee King
Just a little drunk. And I and I had like, major facts incorrect. They weren't like,

Greta Jane
you were embellishing or embellish. There you go.

Raynee King
So instead of the serial killer killer only killing well not only but killing 15

Greta Jane
He only killed 15

Raynee King
...15 women said he killed like 52 Just a few more.

Greta Jane
Just a tiny bit. So thus, this podcast was born.

Raynee King
Amazing. Righty

Greta Jane
it really is.

Raynee King
So today we've already drinkin

Greta Jane
drinkin is not a word.

Raynee King
How many times

Greta Jane
we've drunk

Raynee King
we've drank two bottles the bottles? We had Stella Rosa black.

Greta Jane
Yes.

Raynee King
Which is lovely. and wonderful.

Greta Jane
It was the very first time you introduced me to that was red. That got me smashed. And now we're drinking the worst wine.

Raynee King
I am. This is I'm not a fan of this one. But it is getting like making my tongue fuzzy. It has something in there.

Greta Jane
It's just it's the Apothic Rosae. And it says it's a Rosae with the with dark secrets and the dark secret is that it's terrible.

Raynee King
it's really that but it's it's I think it's only bad in the beginning. Because

Greta Jane
because you're not drunk in the beginnings when

Raynee King
you keep drinking. It gets better and better. Nice, fine wine for you just, you know, the more you just sip on a little bit, it just gets it warmes up to you. Maybe that's the secret is that it warms up to you and knocks you on your bum.

Greta Jane
There you go either. Yeah. Okay, well, wine suggestions will always be accepted.

Raynee King
Yes, please. And if you would like to send us your way. And

Greta Jane
yes, we will accept that too. We will try it. And we will always give a really good honest review. Again, I don't think we're gonna be getting apothic rose as a sponsor.

Raynee King
Again, it sneaks up on you. So it's, I mean, was it terribly expensive?

Greta Jane
No, it was like $6

Raynee King
Oh so. So then

Greta Jane
wine. It's amazing. Amazing. Because I feel like I got it when we were I was out of town and I didn't have enough liquor in my life. So I went and got it and I was like this is $6 Because I was paying a hefty price for the Jameson that I was really going for.

Raynee King
I've never chased with wine.

Greta Jane
you're doing it wrong.

Raynee King
Oh my. Sorry, I just

Greta Jane
so bad.

Raynee King
Took a large drink and yeah, it's definitely a sipping wine. You got to sift through this one.

Greta Jane
There was a movie where it was while we were sleeping. And they told her to drink the eggnog very slowly and she was like, wanting to spit it out. She couldn't, that reminded me of that.

Raynee King
While you were sleeping... they did that?

Greta Jane
It was in a movie. And it was like, spiked eggnog. And they said, just to drink it slowly because it was terrible. And so she took a small sip, and then she was like, looking around like wanting to spit it out, because it was so bad.

Raynee King
I could see that. I'm not a fan of liquor in eggnog. But like I try every year, but it's

Greta Jane
like it's still not good.

Raynee King
It's like fruitcake.

Greta Jane
Fruit cake tastes like brown.

Raynee King
It really does. I don't know what brown tastes like, but it tastes for taste.

Greta Jane
Exactly, 1000%

Raynee King
I did hear I gotta tell you because So last year, I think it was in September. Yeah, September 2021. A woman she wakes up and she finds her burglar sleeping in her guestroom. He took he took a dip in the pool, the leftovers and went to sleep in the guest room. Like it was it her own his own? Airbnb. Isn't that fantastic?

Greta Jane
Could you imagine?

Raynee King
How many like dealers, they take stuff,

Greta Jane
and they just got super tired. And they're like, I'm just gonna take a nap before I head out.

Raynee King
I think I said that, like her wallet was stolen. Because like her her husband had left but her brother in law was there and so he like scared him away and then they found I think I would call the cops let him sleep. Like hide in the bedroom lock the door.

Greta Jane
Goldilocks in my bed. But it's a man and he stole my stuff.

Raynee King
But like his, no, you went swimming because his wet trousers were on the side of the pool.

Greta Jane
Awesome. At least he enjoyed himself.

Raynee King
Living the best life ever.

Greta Jane
I think that is yeah, that's like my there's a story that I heard where this guy kept getting random credit card purchases on his credit card and the he wasn't making any couldn't figure it out because he had his credit card. And then he found out that his wife kept leaving the door unlocked and going and taking naps and his neighbor would come over and steal his card and then go down to the store, buy food lotto tickets and then go back and put his card back in his wallet.

Raynee King
What? What a horrible neighbor.

Greta Jane
So he got in trouble...

Raynee King
I hope so.

Greta Jane
People are weird.

Raynee King
Okay, good. I gotta tell you, yes. Yes, yesterday was July 8, right. Right. And it was actually the anniversary of the death of Oh my goodness. Sarah Ann Walker. I don't know who that is. Yeah, she was a real estate agent in McKinley. Nope. Is that right?

Greta Jane
I don't know. I don't even know the story.

Raynee King
Apparently neither do I. No, I do know this because I I was fascinated that a who was literally July 8th yesterday, so I felt like Sarah was like calling to me, because every time I look at something else, I just kept going back to her stories.

Greta Jane
She needs her story told does.

Raynee King
She does!

Greta Jane
What's her name? Sarah?

Raynee King
Sarah Ann Walker.

Greta Jane
Sarah Ann Walker. Okay, who was a real estate agent?

Raynee King
She was a real estate agent. Yes. In McKinley. McKinney.

Greta Jane
McKinney.

Raynee King
McKinney, Texas. Okay, I'm sorry I've already drinkin

Greta Jane
drinkin,

Raynee King
drinkin... drinkin sort of a little bit of wine.

Greta Jane
I don't think drinkin is a word. Sorry.

Raynee King
You're right, maybe that's the lie. Okay, so, the way she was found was, you know, like, I Have you ever gone to those, like home developments and like, look for decorating ideas?

Greta Jane
No.

Raynee King
No, I do it all the time.

Greta Jane
I don't even know what your talking about

Raynee King
Like those model homes are. Those model homes.

Greta Jane
I go to model homes just to look at them, but not for decorating Ideas.

Raynee King
Yes.

Greta Jane
But I'm obsessed with going and looking at model homes.

Raynee King
I love going to look for like new decorating ideas. Well, this couple decided to do that.

Greta Jane
Okay.

Raynee King
Well, maybe they went into the home, they couldn't find the sales agent out here. But they went into the living room, and it was like a brawl had happened in this room, and then a trail of blood led into the kitchen. And that's where they found Sarah Ann Walker.

Greta Jane
Oh my gosh,

Raynee King
She had been stabbed 27 times. Crap. I know.

Greta Jane
Sounds like vicious attack.

Raynee King
It is a vicious attack! But there was no leads whatsoever. The police did. Well, in the beginning, there was no leads. The police did find in the investigation that she was bitten on her neck. They found that there was a blood stain on the lock the door. And there was drops of blood that were like perfectly drops. Like somebody was walking and it dropped, you know?

Greta Jane
Yeah.

Raynee King
So because she was stabbed so many times. They figure they were able to find that those drops were not the same blood as hers.

Greta Jane
Okay.

Raynee King
so that was the killers blood along with the blood that was on the lock.

Greta Jane
So she fought.

Raynee King
she did if that was the brawl, I mean. I know. Yes. So then three weeks later, a man calls in and says I think I know, I saw the killer. They were in his wife got a call from someone claiming it was like Chan Lee, that he wanted to go look at a house that was across the street from the model home. Okay, and she was a real estate agent. So she agreed to meet him but she felt really uneasy about it. Because he a told her that she he was staying in a hotel. And when she called the hotel back, he there was a lesson there. So she had her husband come with her, which is smart. So, um, and when her husband and her were waiting in the car first and there was a man in a white mustang that came walking up. And he asked him Are you Chan Lee? And the guy didn't say anything, just looked around and then walked off. Back in his car and drove away. Okay. Then they they decided to go into the house that they were selling and wait inside. Well, they saw Sarah Walker go to work. First off, I think he was like checking her out because he was like, hey, look, there's this attractive blonde going.

Greta Jane
Who was checking her out?

Raynee King
The husband?

Greta Jane
Oh the husband, Okay.

Raynee King
So first off, I saw this on forensic file. Okay, let me put that away. Yeah. Interview with him. He was like, very, very intrigued. Active blind coming up with this postcard.

Greta Jane
That's creepy.

Raynee King
Yeah, I thought it was kind of creepy, but he's not the killer. So.

Greta Jane
So Well, thanks for the spoiler.

Raynee King
But he was enough intrigued with her that he checked her out saw what time she came in. Even thought about they even thought about going and visiting with her. Right,

Greta Jane
Right.

Raynee King
But they decided they'll just go home. Let her do her job. First, I think the wife was like, I'm not gonna go visit some attractive real estate agent.

Greta Jane
That you obviously find attractive.

Raynee King
Exactly. Smart. Yeah, sorry. Anyways, so. So they left and 20 minutes later, that's when Sarah Walker was found.

Greta Jane
Oh, God. Thats fast.

Raynee King
Yeah, because it was they left at one and she was found that like 1:20

Greta Jane
Holy cow. Yeah. So when they saw her go in, he she must have been immediately attacked

Raynee King
must have or very soon when they left. They saw the white Mustang behind her car.

Greta Jane
Yeah. Wow. Okay.

Raynee King
So, but it had been a few weeks. So the police didn't or they weren't sure that he could clearly identify him got it. They only got a little glimpse things like that. So they hired a psychic

Greta Jane
Of course they did

Raynee King
to read.

Greta Jane
As you do.

Raynee King
For written they call it a forensic psychic.

Greta Jane
Oh my god. That's a real thing. You could totally do that.

Raynee King
Me.

Greta Jane
Yeah,

Raynee King
probably could I can get any answers for any I seriously,

Greta Jane
you are like with your tarot cards and your intuition, you'd be like, they're in a river, facedown. 500 miles away. And then they show up and they're like, Oh, I didn't mean that river. I meant the other 500 miles the opposite direction

Raynee King
opposite during that I'd probably be that way. The river on the other side of the country. That's that would

Greta Jane
be $5,000. My fee. Thank you.

Raynee King
have a nice day. But this psychic was able to get enough information from him that they were able to identify, like make a composite, like drawing, right?

Greta Jane
Yeah.

Raynee King
But it worked.

Greta Jane
Maybe he was really good at describing

Raynee King
this is bullshit. But it worked. Okay, you were able to put out a like a drawing. And then here's another tip. Another real estate agent calls in and says, I rented like a house to that guy. But yeah, this guy has a fetish with real estate agents, apparently. So she had got him. I think it was a, like a house or something to rent, whatever. So he rented a place but one night he came to her house, asking if he could use her phone and she said no. Don't you have your own phone? Right? Like what year is this? This is a year ago? No, this was 2006. Okay, but still headphones

Greta Jane
back to wasn't a good phone, but I had one right. Or you could just use a payphone. I mean, those are available to me at least back in 2006. Maybe not now, but. Okay. So she said no.

Raynee King
She said no, he got really mad to her being on a door and went to her back door. On her back door. Nope. Her dog started freaking out. He managed to break the door in from the back and she and the dog like started to attack attack him. And she ran out the front door to her neighbor. Okay, called the police. And then he had like, escaped. And of course he did. He did. So, here's the thing. I don't know how to say this guy's name. Oh, okay. But I do have a recording. I'm like, Heck yeah. Audience or whoever's listening. You will know. I'm horrible in

Greta Jane
25 year old costume chatter Come on. I wouldn't even see

Raynee King
a stool check a c'mon. Something like that has to that's not the lie.

Greta Jane
Well, it's recorded.

Raynee King
My husband do that.

Greta Jane
With those scary music and

Raynee King
I know how to do stuff. Heck, yeah. Alright, so. So he was 25. He's 25. He had been in and out of jail since he was 15 years old. He was America. Yes. Okay. So his parents were immigrants, but he was born here. And I forget where they were from. Doesn't matter. It's about him. So exactly. He was in like high school. He had gotten in a fight with another student at school and beat him so badly that he that's what ended him in juvie. Okay. And then he was in and out for like petty crimes like theft and things like that. Six months prior, though he had been released from North Carolina jail for being for he went into jail for holding up two elderly women and like kidnapping them for two days. Yeah, she didn't do anything to him today. He didn't kill them.

Greta Jane
But did he do other things?

Raynee King
They didn't go into that. They just said why he was on parole. So he was in parole in Texas because a sister lived in Texas. So she was willing to like put them up and get his life in order and things like that. Well,

Greta Jane
I bet she's second guessing those choices.

Raynee King
Right. So she, anyways, they were able to catch him clearly. They, they his DNA matched and his teeth marks match her body. So that is my that's your story. That's my

Greta Jane
story. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

Raynee King
But did she have a husband? Was she married? She was married because usually the husband's always the first person. She had an ex husband a reason. See, there you go. She also had a four year old son. Ah, she had another child, but I think that child because it says she's a mother of two, but I think that the oldest is probably old enough that they didn't identify her. You know, they just said she's a mother of two. And the ex husband did see her that morning. He was the last person to see her alive like physically cuz she dropped off her son with him.

Greta Jane
Oh, well, I mean, I could. Yeah. But he does have an

Raynee King
alibi. She had his car. He claims he has an alibi. He didn't have his kids. He was out golfing. But she dropped the kids off. Apparently there's daycare or something like this.

Greta Jane
My golfing is more important. babysitting my kid. All right. Well, so he's up. He's obviously back in

Raynee King
jail. He is he's been in jail. He's been on death row for 14 years death row. He was supposed to be Yeah, he got sorry, I should probably maybe elaborate my story. He did get convicted for it. And sentenced to jail. He was supposed to be euthanized, I believe. Like a couple years ago, it got halted because they appealed the bite mark.

Greta Jane
I hear that bike marks are like, like junk science, that it's like really, people claim to be like professionals with it. But you don't even need to have like a degree or any sort of study. You could just be like, this cheat look like they match. I'm an expert. Now. They did like

Raynee King
make a casing. But but by that point, you just have like a a drying or a scan or something. You're not really like digging up the body and trying to fit the the teeth into it. Right. Yeah. So I feel like I could understand why they want to throw that out. Because there's not but how can you throw out the DNA? Right?

Greta Jane
Well, and so he never admitted that he did it. There's

Raynee King
I don't know that story. Like, I don't know that information. I just know that he was convicted of it. Got it. Didn't say

Greta Jane
I'm assuming that they're going to try and throw out the teeth marks that he never write.

Raynee King
I'm assuming that he's saying he's,

Greta Jane
he's innocent. But yeah, DNA does. I mean,

Raynee King
but they were able to identify that he was the caller. That called the first real estate agent that he was supposed to meet across the street, right?

Greta Jane
And he was probably mad that she brought her husband and he was like, dammit,

Raynee King
Ray ruin my plan. Exactly. But then, like, waited around to see if the husband left and saw Sarah Walker go in by yourself.

Greta Jane
Well, rest in peace or walker. Your how many years ago? 20 2006 I can't do math right now.

Raynee King
It's a long time ago that too much wine already? Oh,

Greta Jane
well. My daughter was born in 2005. So 15 years ago. So God, that's very sad. I have a really hard time figuring out what the lives would be now and maybe the psychic. Yeah, the psychics fun. They actually did. I haven't. But I thought it was like, whatever it was. I would feel like they

Raynee King
did get in hypnotist. And he put them under hitmen. Like, like to like tie some get his mind to relax and go back to the That sounds more legit.

Greta Jane
I mean, I

Raynee King
don't think either way is legit. I'm sorry. That's true. But you're right. I can get anybody to tell me anything. Doesn't mean it's right or not. I can get them to tell it. Yes. By calming them down and feeling in the safe place.

Greta Jane
Yes. You're gonna save space. You're all your feelings are valid here. Yes. The second one I I'm having a hard time figuring out what the second one would be.

Raynee King
Do you want me to tell you should we wait till next week? We

Greta Jane
can wait until next week. Okay. But I'm I'm very intrigued to figure out your story sounds vaguely familiar now that you've told it? I think I did watch like some sort of crime show that did discuss that. But you were a lot more thorough and refreshing my memory. Yeah, the name The name didn't ring a bell. But the murder

Raynee King
actually changed like, at least the company that she worked with changed how their real estate agents were sent to these houses. So now it's like two real estate agents at the same time.

Greta Jane
You would think that that would be just standard

Raynee King
but my that's a shame although I mean when we look for houses

Greta Jane
That's true. We only had one person, right? And that person could have killed us could have gone both ways. Or you

Raynee King
go into like an open door and then just wait. The Killers right there. You have no idea.

Greta Jane
Oh my god. Yeah, that's like, I don't know if you know much about Israel keys. He's fresh on my mind right now because I've been listening to lots of pipe podcasts about him. And he's like, I'm obsessed with him. But he was like one of those people who like light and wait for like an opportunity. He didn't ever really have like a target. Yeah, he would just be like sometimes. And he they interviewed him and he was like, well, sometimes you get people you didn't really want but it was opportunity. So you just take it. I'm just like, holy crap. Okay. Didn't really bad. pisses me off. Like, yeah,

Raynee King
what do you mean? I bet none of them wanted to be killed in the first place.

Greta Jane
Exactly. Well, not and he he refused, like so many people don't know about him is because he made the police called, like, be quiet about his name, like not put any press out about him because he didn't want his daughter to be associated with him. I heard that and I'm like, you killed people who were like kids of parents and you can't

Raynee King
do anything to your daughter.

Greta Jane
Right? We're doing them. Yeah.

Raynee King
Or their daughters. Or their parents. Exactly. Anyway. All right. People are stupid.

Greta Jane
They're dumbasses. No, you're not you don't do crime. At least you do. I'll tell you.

Raynee King
Who we are in a closet.

Greta Jane
All right, so next week, next week, we will find out. Yeah, both of the

Raynee King
at least one more or less. You already picked one. Okay. And then people can email us and let us look. Crap. I believe it is. lies in crime@gmail.com. To lies the number two lies in crime.com. We'll put it up so people can actually see it. Now follow my drunken voice

Greta Jane
sounds good. So we should yeah. You don't remember? Or wrap? How do we? If you say Don't you crime? And I say

Raynee King
you wait, is that it? I

Greta Jane
think it's no it's gotta be more casual drink good wine. Good wine, guys. Let's do this over. drink good wine, and don't be a dumbass All right, guys, tell us what we should drink next. And call us out on our blast by emailing us at two lies in a crime@gmail.com with the number two. You can also follow us on Instagram at to lies in a crime podcast and you can

Raynee King
follow us on Tik Tok with two guys in a crime

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